Welcome. I would second LWT's suggestion of reading Steve Hassan's book.
Looking forward to hearing more from you.
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i thought i should introduce myself as i have been reading your various threads.
Welcome. I would second LWT's suggestion of reading Steve Hassan's book.
Looking forward to hearing more from you.
since finding out the truth about the truth myself and having successfully extricated myself and my parents about the jw's, i find myself with a new dilema that being they still believe the bible as a literal book for their salvation as i has read all of thomas paines works and how the bible is not very good for the human family, as they are of advancing years would it be inappropriate to shatter their illusions of some kind of paradise and let them flounder in a moral precipice and wonder what their lives have been about.
on the flip side once their time has come how would i feel for not telling them their false views.
at the moment i am in the deist point of view, with a tendency of the agnostic, it is quite a dilema!.
I will add, there are some parents who can't cope with their grown child not being beside them at the kingdom hall, even without knowing the reasons why. Should the child (an adult) remain a JW just to save them from the psych unit?
since finding out the truth about the truth myself and having successfully extricated myself and my parents about the jw's, i find myself with a new dilema that being they still believe the bible as a literal book for their salvation as i has read all of thomas paines works and how the bible is not very good for the human family, as they are of advancing years would it be inappropriate to shatter their illusions of some kind of paradise and let them flounder in a moral precipice and wonder what their lives have been about.
on the flip side once their time has come how would i feel for not telling them their false views.
at the moment i am in the deist point of view, with a tendency of the agnostic, it is quite a dilema!.
"We never free a mind once it's reached a certain age. It's dangerous, the mind has trouble letting go." - Morpheus, The Matrix.
awake 73 march 22 p.12 "the spirit of competition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...in some homes tensions linger long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since it originated...the games conection to war is obvious....a play substitue for the art of war...there is a danger of stirring uo competition with one another even developing hostility with one another something the bible warns against....what effect does playing chess have on one?
is it a wholesome effect?
....there are questions regarding it that each one who plays chess should consider.".
Aaaahhh, this is why my parents didn't like me going to chess club.
can you list any similarities between the borg from star trek and the organisation?.
thanks!
timmy xx.
After a drone is liberated from the collective, they carry the scars of their former life.
i read with interest the thread about how people who are mentally out yet still attend (some) meetings manage to do continue to do it and it got me wondering, how do those of us who are completely inactive, no longer practicing members of the faith, manage to pull off our new ex-jw life, yet never invite scrutiny or investigation from former friends, elders, etc.. take me, for example.
i've been out several years now, but have never officially renounced my faith.
i've never out and out called it a crock of shit to anyone who could make real trouble for me.
I'm not DA or DF but my family treat me as though I am. Job done.
perhaps he will resurface someday, his videos were the best quality..
I miss V/Watchtower Comments too.
Has anyone ever seen TruthBookBlues videos on YouTube? They're hilarious.
Yes, I think they are made by Wasanelder Once.
on another forum, someone recently started a thread asking what sort of lifestyle the watchtower elite enjoy.
it prompted me to do a little digging.
when the leaflet 'dress and grooming for visitors touring bethel' was published a few years ago, i thought the room below looked familiar.
It's worth visiting the blog to see more pictures; I'm not coomfortable with directly linking pictures with people in them.
on another forum, someone recently started a thread asking what sort of lifestyle the watchtower elite enjoy.
it prompted me to do a little digging.
when the leaflet 'dress and grooming for visitors touring bethel' was published a few years ago, i thought the room below looked familiar.
On another forum, someone recently started a thread asking what sort of lifestyle the Watchtower elite enjoy. It prompted me to do a little digging. When the leaflet 'Dress and Grooming for Visitors Touring Bethel' was published a few years ago, I thought the room below looked familiar. I remembered being blown away by the opulence of the Towers Hotel building where I was told a number of the Governing Body were living at the time of my visit. I don't know if the buidling has been sold as part of the org's plan to move out of Brooklyn but it was at that time occupied by more senior Bethelites.
I found this blog and sure enough, there's the room I remembered.
How much do you suppose it would cost to rent prime real estate like this?
i am just curious to hear of some you who have left the org completely, how happy are you?
in my situation i feel like i am on a precipice and about to make a leap into the unknown.
since i have told my family elders and wife that i will mo longer go to the meetings or out on service i feel as if a load has been lifted.
I felt elated and like a load had been lifted when I finally talked to my family about my feelings.
I must warn you though that this trip is a rollercoaster. This is a cult after all, they don't let you leave just like that. My life is dreadful right now but at the end of the 'river of shit' I know I will come out clean.